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Hi Matt, any advice on my question from June 4 about the Jandy Lite 2 (Model #: LG175N)? try to get this resolved before your warranty runs out. An overheating motor is something that needs to be tested/checked, it cannot be diagnosed without some legwork. If not, that would be something to do before anything else.Also, Century motors only carry a 1-year warranty; with it being May, you would be just out of its coverage. The compressor does not engage, just the fan. If your system loses prime when the pump shuts off, water inside the filter tank will go two ways, through the returns or backflush through the pump and out of the suction lines. If your motor ran on 115 with wires one size smaller, it should run easily on the oversized wire with half the current. Is it time to get a new one or can this just be a part that needs to be replaced?  Posted: 9/28/2016, Karl Before I gamble on such an expensive part, can I bypass/jump/test this brown terminal, or do you see something else I’ve missed? Any suggestions? What is happening is we will use the heater to heat up the spa. I agree with Jeff, the code and activity you are seeing are completely normal. Switched motor voltage by moving jumper from 115 to 230. Turns on and clicks for a while trying to light, but never does. Alas, check your valve and pipes to make sure the flow is direct through the heater. If so, what code is it flashing? Inspect your heat exchanger for chemical or sanitizer damage. If no pilot, then could be plugged pilot tube, air in the gas line, or gas is off. Was working fine, all of a sudden, the heater ignites, runs for about 15-20 secs or so, then poof, out it goes. Once apart, used pipe cleaners down each duct, then your motor will keep itself cool and be back to normal. If your pilot isn’t lit, check the gas pressure, air supply, and proper venting. Do I have to take it apart to check the heat exchanger ? The motor is very hot. Circuit without pump does not trip breaker. Water Temp 79. If your heater is out of warranty, sometimes, it’s simply cheaper to do it yourself. A dirty filter can cause low pressure and as a result, cause the heater’s pressure switch to turn OFF. You can visibly see them all clogged. When the heater is shutting off, is it giving a service code on the display? Hello. Your fine…. The heater could just be dirty and in need of a thorough cleaning. It also maintains a circulating current in the water, reducing your risk of nuisance algae. Have not tried to jury rig a fix as I have the broken fitting. Then i was getting the ao code, so i replaced the blower. Make sure to keep your valves open as to not prevent the water flow. Thinking motherboard or gas valve. Hello, I have had an 2 Emerson variable speed for about 1.5 yr. it is not covered. in my pool everyday when I wake up. i have a hayward gas heater sw150 not heating the water at all everything is running fine getting gas water pressure all good no codes someone tells me it a bypass. Heater was off for two weeks in our holiday period, When the filter is off that’s when it seems the DE appears . If this problem isn't corrected, it will burn out your motor's windings and cause it to fail.Note: A running motor that is too hot to touch is not necessarily overheating. During the warm air/ high fan cycles, the water does pump in hot into the spa. What should I be looking for? I also opened the multiport and the spider gasket is in good condition. Now saying it is the gas pressure. Seemed like everything was running good but after about 10 minutes, pump overheated and shut off. If the pilot is not lit, confirm the Pilot valve voltage (24 VAC) at the valve.  Posted: 6/12/2016, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Any idea why the delay in the heater? If the Water heater locks you out after it shuts down consider cleaning and reinstalling the air intake screen on the blower assembly. Low water flow is normally the problem. The seals and gaskets may have been damaged or you may have burned out parts of your motor. Is your heater lashing an error code? CHECK MOTOR SIZE - Make sure the motor is not undersized. how can I tell if its bad ? It will manipulate it and force it to shift. Checking water flow is the simplest to troubleshoot. My heater (pentair )is reading 94-96 degrees ( did read 104 earlier this afternoon but came down to 94 when I turned unit off then back on again) but is set at 80. This year when I tried using it for the first time the breaker would trip every time the compressor would try to kick on. Please help....thank you, Kevin - This is a strange one. Thank you for the topic tutorial. The total horsepower must be equal to or greater than the pump/impeller rating. Currently it’s 65F outside. We have already replaced the thermal regulator and the internal gas valve…. Spiders sometimes get into the burners and leave sacks behind. I can wait till it cools down, about 20 minutes and I can turn it back on and it runs again. This does not sound right… thoughts? Make sure the pilot tube is intact and not clogged. Everything works fine until after about 15 min, when the fan just blows cool air and there is no flame anymore. It has been working fine all spring until now. had it installed and now there is no power going to the ignition I was reading your posts regarding heater issues, very helpful information. Later located the water temperature sensor. If not, turn on the pump and see if you see where the smoke was coming from. Was the air bled from the gas line? Have you done any of the troubleshooting mentioned int he article? This should only take 5-10 minutes and should be part of a spring cleaning routine. The display pad is saying high amp. holiday inn - If it's squealing, your bearings may be going. I have a Rheem gas heater. I just installed a new pool pump. Moisture could cause the refractory to delaminate. What could have occurred? Clean and/or backwash the filter. were a common problem. Hello The ProLogic unit is set to Heater OFF, but the heater still turns on. It will fire up and run for 15 seconds and the temp says it goes to 90 and shuts off, then goes back to 81 in 30 seconds and repeats? SOLUTION: Check to see if the wiring for the FV Sensor is correct. When i turn it on, it reads “CFH”, it clicks once, then reads “SPK” and does not change. If you yourself in this scenario, this blog article is for you. The latter should definitely be checked by a professional.  Posted: 6/4/2017, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. I turned on breaker back on and there was a buzzing sound (like it was getting electricity but not moving) after about 30 seconds to 1 min, it shut itself off.  Posted: 8/21/2016, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. There are also videos about this. Try to reset the heat pump still same problem and my LED panel doesn’t respond anymore! The problem may be that you need to clean the heater and remove dirt from the evaporator and burners. In the Midwest this year- without a cover- it has been difficult to achieve a decent heat rise- until a couple of days ago. So it’s been a month or more that it was running. I have a Pentair Heater. https://i.imgur.com/ekjn2ut.jpg. This is our guide for Pentair MiniMax NT Heater Error Codes. On the pressure sensor is the water in the tube supposed to go all the way to the switch? My pump stopped working and it seems like the breaker may have got damaged. Pool Heater Turns ON and OFF (Cycles) If your swimming pool heater is cycling ON and OFF, it is an early indication that the electrical connection or power supply is experiencing issues. blowing out when I’m filtering for hours. Have you tried contacting get manufacturer for a troubleshoot? Can you tell where the sound is coming from within the heater? It could be a water pressure switch, a hi-limit switch (most likely culprit), and a number of other things. Flame lights, then 1-2 seconds later it goes out. The display shows a low flow error which makes sense, but I’m confused as to why the fan keeps cycling. Turn off the filter pump. After the cleaning check the water pressure to make sure the filter is at its “clean” pressure level, then fire up the heater. The hi-temp sensors and the blower sensor. For MV heaters, if the pilot won’t stay lit, check the output on the thermocouple. Any suggestions? It’ll te you how to check and replace. Is the pilot lighting?  Posted: 4/12/2017, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. I cleared out the filters in the pool and pump, when I touched the pump motor, it was pretty hot after less than 1 second. Can I light my pilot light to test it before I turn on the pump and get water flowing through the pool heater.  Posted: 4/17/2017, Jeff Oversized wire by one size just in case. Today’s gas water heaters have air inlet screens at the bottom of the water heater that can get clogged with dust, dirt, soot, pet hair and lint. Keeps throwing the breaker at the Pentair panel after 1 hour of operation. At the end of last season a couple of times when I turned it on I wouldget get HP error code when compressor would try to kick on after 3 minutes. It developed a fitting leak on the outlet side of the heat exchanger. There are other factors that can actively contribute to your heater’s ON and OFF cycles. I got everything installed and the heater starts and fires up and the shuts off and gives a IF code. The unit ignites for about 3 seconds then shuts down, then it tries to fire up again and again with the same result. My emerson variable pool pumpm motor is showing High mapa on the display pad, them shuts off after a coupé of seconds. What is the make-model of the heater? Did the water from the filter possibly cause a short of some kind? Is your pool water chemistry consistently and accurately balanced? Do you have a push pull valve or a multivalve.. Also, if your motor has a governor, check to see if it's stuck open. I have a H200 gas heater. Pump runs for a while, overheats and shuts off. Anyway, regarding the code, I believe that it is a gas line issue, I will be installing a new gas line and regulator and see of that helps. Would love your thoughts! There is plenty of propane. Artificially high ambients can occur if a motor operates in a confined space and recirculates the same air or circulates air from another motor next to it. Any idea?? Best guess would be a bad pressure sensor or a dirty filter. I checked when it was dark outside so i could see the flame glowing in the sight glass. This is my go-to heat pump model. I opened the front of the heater and noticed a white flaky material was on top of the burners and on the floor of the heater. It had an error code of “low flow”. That would help go a long way in finding the solution. You don’t need a fancy test meter to troubleshoot a pool heater. Hayward support hasn’t been particularly helpful. It’ll run fine for 30 minutes, shut down because of the LO error, kick back on, rinse and repeat throughout the time we’re trying to use the heater. There might be multiple problem areas. thanks. The heater only comes on if it’s turned all the way up. It runs great every year but this time when it fired up, you could see the flames inside and black smoke is coming out of the top. Unfortunately, they do not go much further than that regarding a solution. These special sensors monitor and detect changes in water flow. What does Option valve light on mean on a Hayward pro logic control panel mean? You may want to make sure you have the circular insulation mat that sits between the blower’s flange and the stack. It keeps water flowing through the filter so that your pool isn't littered with leaves or other debris. My Pentair 200 heater will turn on and red service light on immediately, the blower turns on, then the burner lights up runs for about 20 seconds and shuts off, blower cycles for about 60 seconds and shuts off, but board is frozen, no buttons on or off or temp control work unless I kill power, and I have done obvious filter cleaned, water flow good, gas is on, any suggestions. Thank you. Like Justin, my pump appeared to be running fine, until one day it started to buzz, then shut down, and did this repeatedly. If the motor conversion from 120 to 230 wasn't correct, you would have fried the motor before the breaker opened. ANY suggestions? None found. Check water flow. Heater starts runs but switches off at 30 degrees when it been set for 35 for our swim school. Manufactured: April 2008. Also, check the motor's fuse. Are there any error or fault codes flashing on the control board? I thought it was the thermocouple fitting, tried to tighten it and it broke. The best thing to do is to call the heat pump service line 800-375-7378, and they can walk you through the process. What could this be?? We layout a list of things you can try to determine what the issue is. The motor was working great until the other day. Is the heater hooked up to an automated control or is it standalone? If the automatic protector is not tripping and the actual running amps do not exceed the maximum amps on the nameplate, the motor is not overheating.Click Here to View Motor Parts (Including Capacitors, Bearings, Switches & More)Click Here to Find Your Replacement Pool Pump Motor, KG The Service Heater light turns on while the heater shuts down for that minute or so. Hope this helps. No code is present. Check your pump’s strainer basket. It's still running to hot to touch after 10 minutes or so. Where the whining began after the heater fired dry; that could be scale that developed inside the exchanger while the heater ran with superheated water going through the exchanger. I flipped the breaker off waited a few minutes then flipped it back on.  Posted: 7/24/2017, Anonymous So, what is the best pool heater? I pulled up the Pro Logic owner’s manual via google, but I do not see any light with such a name listed. We depressurized the system to install a salt chlorine generator, then when we started back up we noticed a heap of DE powder by the main drain. See the motor label for instructions. I have a Hayward pool heater and just replaced heat exchanger. There is no backflow valve in the piping, but this unit has worked properly for the 9 years I’ve lived here. Took out my cartridge filters and cleaned them. Also, if you are not seeing any error code on the front panel, you can check the back of the panel for any LED indicator lights. When a furnace starts and shuts off, it could be a sign that you have low airflow. Pool features off and pool return is on full. new heater. then this should solve the rollout issue. Baskets are empty. Water from the jets still doesn’t seem any warmer than the spa water. I have a Pentair Master temp 200 heater.  Posted: 12/15/2016, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. If there is a pilot, but heater doesn’t fire, then check all of the wires and connections leading from the gas valve to the ignition control module (particularly the ground wire) for missing insulation, heat damage, etc . Good troubleshooting. Raypak Classic Series Heat Pump 140,000 BTU – 016033. A dirty filter can prevent the heater from firing. When I flipped the circuit breaker back on nothing happened. I saw this phenomenon rear its head in a pool just the other day. Any suggestions? Had same problem. I suggest you call a professional to come take a look if you are having any issues. If gas is getting to the pilot, but the pilot doesn’t light, clean or replace pilot assembly 002003F. Follow these troubleshooting instructions for the MasterTemp on page 38, hopefully, you can verify if the board is good through those steps. For a pool your size, you will need a higher BTU size. 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